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		<title>An Experience with Final Cut Pro, After Effects and Gamma Issues</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 00:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bryce Randle</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve put off writing this entry for about three weeks because it was such an awful experience for me. I just finished a documentary &#8230;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve put off writing this entry for about three weeks because it was such an awful experience for me. I just finished a documentary and for the SEO sake of it I will refer to it as <em>Hockey Doc. </em>Overall it was a great experience. I finished the edit, locked picture and sent it off to Technicolor to get colored. It comes back, looks great and I plug in the newly colored version into my sequence. While editing the project I created these left or right third graphics that gave biographic information on each of the players, coaches and the others interviewed. So I took the raw file (before color correction mind you) from Final Cut Pro, exported the 7-10 second clip, imported it into After Effects, animated the clip in and out (see the example below) and then spit it back into my Final Cut Pro project.</p>
<p>It all seemed to work really well. That wasn&#8217;t the case though.</p>
<p>I got my colored version back, spit the new color corrected versions back into my After Effects compositions and then exported again. I rendered for DVD output using compressor. I burned a master DVD of the project in DVD Studio Pro. It should have just worked, right? Well it didn&#8217;t. The color of the After Effects clips would change slightly, becoming a little darker. The graphics also did not slide smoothly across the screen either way. Now normally I would spend a lot more time trying to fix the problem, but I had a deadline. This was on a Tuesday and it needed to be back in Valencia, California on a Thursday morning at the latest. I ended up staying awake until 4 AM trying to figure the issues. Here are a few steps I tried.</p>
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<p><a href="http://postfifthpictures.com/blog_extras/Animation_PFPPost.mov" target="_blank">(Notice how jittery the text moves AND how odd the subject looks while the graphic is up. It&#8217;s a different motion than when he is up on screen before)</a></p>
<p>With the help of <a href="http://www.freehillproductions.com/index.html" target="_blank">Steve Freebairn over at FreeHill Productions</a> I figured out that applying easy ease in and easy ease out keyframes along with some motion blur on the slides would take the jittery look away. I was dealing with all pro res files and exported them from After Effects and into Final Cut Pro. They looked great this time. So I then tried the export again. It still looked odd. The color still changed if I used a reference movie or used compressor. It looked fine if I just did &#8220;Export as Self Contained Movie.&#8221; The motion problem wasn&#8217;t there if I did that either.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">[See post to watch QuickTime movie]
<p style="text-align: left;">(Notice the color changes just before that graphic pops out over the right side)</p>
<p>I started to do some Google searches and came over a few articles at Creative Cow saying I need to have exported those raw versions from Final Cut Pro as Animation files instead of Pro Res.<a href="http://forums.creativecow.net/archivepost/8/246519" target="_blank"> It turns out that you don&#8217;t notice some of these problems when you are in FCP and or Quicktime because there is an automatic gamma correction.</a> So I did. And guess what, after 4 hours of re rendering my graphics, it looked great. I previewed everything in FCP. The colors appeared to change on my sequence so I exported them as a reference movie. They didn&#8217;t change at all! Awesome. The color is now the same. But wait, FCP rendered the Animation files now and they looked shaky again.</p>
<p>I figured if I used those same Pro Res renders again that I could just export the show as a self contained movie, maybe I could then use compressor to get it in DVD Studio Pro.</p>
<p>Not true.</p>
<p>If I took it into DVD SP through a compressor, it somehow detected the gamma change again. Ugh.</p>
<p>I figured out the only way to have my footage and effects work together was to do a self contained movie file and take that right into DVD Studio Pro. It isn&#8217;t the way I like to work, but it worked. The DVD Compression looked fine on my QC and after all this I made it to FedEx at 6:03 pm. They unlocked the door for me and overnighted my package to Valencia. I barely made deadline.</p>
<p>Please, I would love any other suggestions as I have searched and found this wasn&#8217;t just an issue with my production. What has been the best workflow for you to avoid these gamma issues?</p>
<div id="attachment_475" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-475" title="DesktopTests" src="http://postfifthpictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/DesktopTests-300x187.jpg" alt="DesktopTests" width="300" height="187" /><p class="wp-caption-text">I tested this out so many times on 1 minute segments. I output them all to the desktop. Here is a screenshot of most of my tests.</p></div>
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